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Title: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on March 01, 2015, 08:55:22 AM
My current PC has a lot of issues. Some being:

1.  Getting very sluggish since the last 2 Windows upgrades.

2.  Still using Vista!  (http://www.docskillz.com/docs/Smileys/skhilled/ohmy2.gif)

3.  I built this one 5 years ago and the CPU is old. Using AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4800 2.51 GHz 32-bit version.

4.  Some software will not update or install because of the old CPU or Vista.

5.  Only 4 GB RAM DDR2...should be at least 8GB.

5.  Stalls on boot up possibly due to BIOS upgrades. Using ASUS M2N-E Motherboard.

So, I've decided to build a new PC this year with my Tax Refund.

Since I didn't have anywhere to go yesterday, I decided to drive to the Philadelphia/St. Davids Micro Center  (http://www.microcenter.com/)location (they have various locations across the US) on an "info gathering" mission to see what I should get and how much I can expect to pay. The staff there are VERY knowledgeable and can answer all of your questions...I've been going there almost since they opened about 25 years ago! They have a vast array of products...almost anything you could every want for a computer or other device. Training for various needs is on location as well as they can build a computer for you while you wait!...for an extra fee. Books, software, nut and bolts of various sizes and colors, PC cases, fans...you name it! Trust me, you will be impressed! And they have different sales going on every week.

So, here's what I got so far:

Motherboard
ASUS A88X-PRO Socket FM2+ ATX AMD Motherboard (http://www.microcenter.com/product/423953/A88X-PRO_Socket_FM2_ATX_AMD_Motherboard#) - The link says "Out of stock" cause I bought the last one!  (http://www.docskillz.com/docs/Smileys/skhilled/hah.gif) This was $149.99 with a $25 instant savings and a $25 mail-in rebate! And because I purchased the CPU, listed below, they took another $40 off!  (http://www.docskillz.com/docs/Smileys/skhilled/ohmy2.gif)

CPU
AMD A10 7850K 4.0 GHz Black Edition Boxed processor (http://www.microcenter.com/product/427565/A10_7850K_40_GHz_Black_Edition_Boxed_processor) - This is listed at $149.99 at most places but was $119.99 there and helped me get the $40 off for the mobo above.  (http://www.docskillz.com/docs/Smileys/skhilled/dancebun.gif)

Memory
Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB DDR3-1600 (PC3-12800) (http://www.microcenter.com/product/382101/Ballistix_Sport_8GB_DDR3-1600_%28PC3-12800%29_CL9_Dual_Channel_Desktop_Memory_Kit_%28Two_4GB_Memory_Modules%29#) - 2 sticks which I may take back for faster ones and 16GB instead of the 8GB these have...not that they are bad. I just started thinking I may want more.

So...I still need to get:

1.  PC case - preferrably toolless and plenty of space for drive bays and ventilation.

2.  DVD drive - the one I have is messed up.  (http://www.docskillz.com/docs/Smileys/skhilled/rolleyes.gif)

3.  Fans for the case

4. Power supply unit (PSU)

5.  SSD HD drive - for my primary drive for speed.

6.  1 or 2 TB HD for storage.

6.  Graphics Card (GPU) - the mobo does have on-board graphics so that is not needed right away.

7.  Win 8.1

And maybe a few bells and whistles like lighting for the inside of the case or colored screws to match the case.

Any updates or anything else I can think of will be added to this topic. :)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Ken. on March 01, 2015, 10:04:36 AM
Sounds good so far Steve.  8)
You'll find a lot to like with Win 8.1 and a few parts that you do not... but there are work around for most.

My two top changes are to the start page, I installed Classic Shell (http://www.classicshell.net/) to replace that page full of charms. And the 'OneDrive'... my 8.1 laptop is stuck with the OneDrive icon down by my clock because, even though OneDrive can be disabled, it cannot be turned off.  :censored:

Anyways... I'm looking forward to reading about your progress as you do your build.  ;D

Ps: Any idea on your final cost?
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Maxx on March 01, 2015, 01:25:52 PM
Yes sounds very close to the one I built and build for others, I would get to 2 one TB drives at a High Cache  and at least 7200 rpm SATA. the Windows 8.1, I also like very lite on resources once you clean out what you don't want it's nice. ( note the Solid state drives run fast, until they build up some file then they get slower and slower) are very pricy!

I keep a in clone on the other drive ( secondary )!

 has many apps you just delete and or high. as Ken mention you can set up a regular Desk top,
Some of the control Icons hidden but mostly on the bottom left and right sides.
You will find it very fast compared to Vista.

I have on my Intel windows 10
on my standby AMD ASUS PC I have windows 7
and on my Laptop I have windows 8.1

Once you you get hang of the Windows 8.1 you will like , I think!
Many don't like 8.1 cause they don't like the change!

"Yes it's been a long time coming, but change is gonna come oh yes it. " say one more time Sam!

if any of you guys need help, with you computers. I will try my best to help you out!

regards,
Maxx

 
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on March 01, 2015, 02:46:11 PM
Sounds good so far Steve.  8)
You'll find a lot to like with Win 8.1 and a few parts that you do not... but there are work around for most.

My two top changes are to the start page, I installed Classic Shell (http://www.classicshell.net/) to replace that page full of charms. And the 'OneDrive'... my 8.1 laptop is stuck with the OneDrive icon down by my clock because, even though OneDrive can be disabled, it cannot be turned off.  :censored:

Anyways... I'm looking forward to reading about your progress as you do your build.  ;D

Ps: Any idea on your final cost?
Thanks. I plan on changing the Start Page because I've never liked it since Win 7. It's one of the reasons why I still use Vista. LOL

As for the cost, I usually spend around $500-600 but that is usually all in one shot. I plan for what I want then buy it all at once. This time I'll go a bit slower and spread it across several paychecks. This will allow me to spend a bit more. ;)

Yes sounds very close to the one I built and build for others, I would get to 2 one TB drives at a High Cache  and at least 7200 rpm SATA. the Windows 8.1, I also like very lite on resources once you clean out what you don't want it's nice. ( note the Solid state drives run fast, until they build up some file then they get slower and slower) are very pricy!

I keep a in clone on the other drive ( secondary )!
Yes, the SSD'd also tend to wear out faster from what I've been reading in reviews so the jury is still out on that.

So, I may opt for the two 1 TG drives. I always dual-boot with at least one version of linux and that would give me enough space for several distros to play with.

I also got paid Friday and didn't realize I had more in my account that I realized or I may have gotten a few more things.  :happy:
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Ken. on March 01, 2015, 03:56:17 PM
Yes, the SSD'd also tend to wear out faster from what I've been reading in reviews so the jury is still out on that.

So, I may opt for the two 1 TG drives. I always dual-boot with at least one version of linux and that would give me enough space for several distros to play with.

I've read those reviews as well, but there seem to be many positives as well and to me the main one would be SSD speed as compared to other drives available... so if it were me building a new PC a small SSD, just big enough to hold the OS, would be my first choice for the main drive and then one or two regular (SATA) drives for programs and storage.

Me gonna enjoy seeing you build this one Steve.  :cool2:
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Maxx on March 01, 2015, 04:00:08 PM
Another thing that comes to mind is the sata connectors both on the drive and the cables are very fragile and break easily so plz take care those, and some with little like lock down levers one them so they do not come lose so easy. and make certain on Pwr supply that it has the correct plug type or types for the CPU power, so you may ask you friend before you by the power supply. Mine had dual fans and on off switch, some do not,

All dram and Video bus speeds must match the board, and I myself prefer to use the mid speed and if your gonna go 64 bit, make certain your favorite software will and all are 64bit as well. ( but some of the newer software will work in the 32bit mode on your windowz 7,8 and up, I run all at 64 Bit.

Maybe you know all this just a reminder on whatever!

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Maxx on March 01, 2015, 04:03:39 PM
Yes, the SSD'd also tend to wear out faster from what I've been reading in reviews so the jury is still out on that.

So, I may opt for the two 1 TG drives. I always dual-boot with at least one version of linux and that would give me enough space for several distros to play with.

I've read those reviews as well, but there seem to be many positives as well and to me the main one would be SSD speed as compared to other drives available... so if it were me building a new PC a small SSD, just big enough to hold the OS, would be my first choice for the main drive and then one or two regular (SATA) drives for programs and storage.

Me gonna enjoy seeing you build this one Steve.  :cool2:

I'm all for that and just surfing the web. and do your work on the HDD.  I can see some laptops doing better on SSD also! I think it great Idea for some things!

Maxx
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on March 01, 2015, 04:25:18 PM
Yes, the SSD'd also tend to wear out faster from what I've been reading in reviews so the jury is still out on that.

So, I may opt for the two 1 TG drives. I always dual-boot with at least one version of linux and that would give me enough space for several distros to play with.

I've read those reviews as well, but there seem to be many positives as well and to me the main one would be SSD speed as compared to other drives available... so if it were me building a new PC a small SSD, just big enough to hold the OS, would be my first choice for the main drive and then one or two regular (SATA) drives for programs and storage.

Me gonna enjoy seeing you build this one Steve.  :cool2:
Yes, a SSD should be the primary drive so your PC and startup programs boot much faster. Programs you will load after bootup will also load a lot faster. You don't really need much more than 500GB for a primary drive unless you like to install a ton of programs and keep them all installed at once. Otherwise, you should put photos, videos, files you save or backup to your seconday or other drives. This will help keep your primary drive clutter free, mostly.

Another thing that comes to mind is the sata connectors both on the drive and the cables are very fragile and break easily so plz take care those, and some with little like lock down levers one them so they do not come lose so easy. and make certain on Pwr supply that it has the correct plug type or types for the CPU power, so you may ask you friend before you by the power supply. Mine had dual fans and on off switch, some do not,

All dram and Video bus speeds must make the board, and I myself prefer to use the mid speed and if your gonna go 64 bit, make certain you favorite software will and all are 64bit as well. ( but some of the newer software will work in the 32bit mode on your windowz 7,8 and up, I run all at 64 Bit.

Maybe you know all this just a reminder on whatever!

regards,
Maxx
You should always be careful when connecting something to your mobo. If it breaks everything else may not work since it is the heart of your system. As for the PSU, I like dual fans as well for better airflow. However, this must also coincide with your case's airflow to maximize it. ;)

I tend to go midspeed as well. But I have overclocked a few times and have blown a board doing it. LOL So, I tend to stay on the low side, if I OC. When I built this board, 64 bit was the latest thing but the problem was only a few software manufacturers actually had software that actually used it. So, I stuck with 32-bit mode and do until this day, mostly because of Vista. I may go full 64-bit this time because you can use 32-bit compatibility mode for 32-bit programs which is a lot more reliable than it was years ago.
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Maxx on March 06, 2015, 07:19:16 AM
Steve I got one of these running in my main PC, I like WD. on special My cost more.

WD BLACK SERIES WD1003FZEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
Extra savings w/ promo code ESCAPAT34, ends 3/8
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Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on March 08, 2015, 02:54:07 PM
Actually, I was just looking at that same one on amazon.com and it's about $5 cheaper and I may even get it cheaper than that and with no shipping charges because I'm a Prime Member. ;)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Maxx on March 08, 2015, 04:29:31 PM
Well Mine is running great I like WD best then any of them. The SGate 1TB some clam a small shock or bump can cause the to fail, at least a while back anyway!

But the WD is the best but no matter where you get it cheaper is better beware of shipping :)

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on March 08, 2015, 04:32:26 PM
I usually only buy online at Amazon.com so I don't worry about shipping. ;)

But I may go back to Micro Center to get it...we'll see...
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Maxx on March 08, 2015, 04:44:34 PM
Yes I think you'll be happy with it, they are very quite and I use Iorbit drefrag, as you know works in the background and you can even scan  defrag the boot sector and every so many boots, I think mine is set for every week, on the boot sector scan.

I know you know most of this stuff. just and FYI for others!

Maybe someone else can use this info!

Edit going Blind :) and every time Avg pops up for Thunderbird warning is blocks my typing, but I don't like Outlook or IE, so what the >>>>hey!

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on March 08, 2015, 04:47:05 PM
Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on March 13, 2015, 11:28:22 AM
OK, decided on a PC case. Watch the video about half way down the page for more info:

Corsair Carbide Series 300R Mid-Tower ATX Gaming Computer Case (http://www.microcenter.com/product/379532/Carbide_Series_300R_Mid-Tower_ATX_Gaming_Computer_Case)

My primary hard drive...for now:

WD Black 1TB 7,200 RPM SATA III 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive WD1003FZEX (http://www.microcenter.com/product/422867/Black_1TB_7,200_RPM_SATA_III_60Gb-s_35_Internal_Hard_Drive_WD1003FZEX)

And my DVD Writer:

Samsung SH-224DB24x SATA Internal DVD Burner OEM - SH-224DB/BEBE (http://www.microcenter.com/product/413641/SH-224DB24x_SATA_Internal_DVD_Burner_OEM_-_SH-224DB-BEBE)

All that is left is the PSU (which I may use my current one) and a video card which I'll get later since there is one built into the board and I don't game much on the PC, atm and Win 8.1... Not sure when I 'll get everything going yet...
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Ken. on March 13, 2015, 12:53:22 PM
That's a nice looking box.
I like the parts and pieces he had in that demo model.  :hah:
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on March 13, 2015, 12:55:56 PM
I'd doubt I'd get a psu that large...it's overkill for me. LOL

And am pretty sure the 2 video cards are are prolly over $200 or more are not in the deck either....
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on March 21, 2015, 04:49:40 PM
I just ordered these:

PC Case: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0055Q7BR4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Hard Drive: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FJRS6FU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

DVD Burner: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IFRH9TA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

They will be here by Tuesday. I still need a power supply and an OS. Will get those next payday....next Friday, hopefully.  :hah:
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Ken. on March 21, 2015, 07:31:57 PM
I like all those parts... esp the HDD.  :happy:
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Maxx on March 22, 2015, 09:27:55 AM
I like the case, very cool and the HDD is the same I got, real  smooth very low vibration and noise, running it a while, no issues.

The IOrbit defrag works great on it, in the back ground. boots real fast!

And even though I have 2 ea. 1 TB HDD's I'm thinking that they may run slow if you don't keep the tidy ?
I feel in reality most could get by with the 350 or 500 GB HDDs and use a backup external HDD .

The DVD unit looks like it has all the good stuff. I use mine for install, movies and Music videos.

Some built machines/Laptops come without the DVD and the OS a;ready installed, Don't like that at all!
I have too many DVD's and CD's to give them up or have external hanging around! :)


Sorry Doc, adding some info for the visitors! :) I get carried away.

Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on March 22, 2015, 01:26:58 PM
I'll eventually get a ssd and use that for the primary drive for more speed. But that'll come later.
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on March 23, 2015, 10:06:01 AM
The HDD and DVD will be delivered by 8PM today and the case will be delivered by 8PM tomorrow.

My next order will be these:

Windows 8.1
http://Microsoft Windows 8.1 - Full Version (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EDSI7QO/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2B8V8URX9CVCU&coliid=I1BYGJUA27340F)

The PSU will be one of these 2:

EVGA 600B 80PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V/EPS12V Active PFC 600W Power Supply 100-B1-0600-KR  (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EON40CS/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2B8V8URX9CVCU&coliid=IN5MKXMI5T96W&psc=1) 

Corsair CX Series 600 Watt ATX/EPS Modular 80 PLUS Bronze ATX12V/EPS12V 552 Power Supply CX600M  (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ALYOPSS/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2B8V8URX9CVCU&coliid=I35VTUHCPLN4R9&psc=1)

An anti-static wrist strap:

KingWin Anti-Static Wrist Strap (ATS-W24)  (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0042TLA90/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2B8V8URX9CVCU&coliid=I1G6KDG14SEL0&psc=1)

Thermal compound:

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound 3.5 Grams  (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000OGX5AM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2B8V8URX9CVCU&coliid=I3LD6HVZNZQZ18&psc=1)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Maxx on March 23, 2015, 10:45:27 AM
Good deal and the compound I always keep on hand, I like to clean and replace yearly, it gets dried up. The rest the unit and the heat sink and Fan I do every few months... Sounds like you got a good handle on things my good friend! :)

Just and FYI when you install and start up windows 8.1 you'll have some deleting to do on on those Apps and links to apps you do not want. If you have issue with windows 8, I have it, windows 7 and 10


Have fun Bro! I gonna miss out I love doing them machines!

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on March 23, 2015, 11:07:28 AM
This is my 4th rig so I know what to do but it's been 5 years since then and there were only maybe 3 different cpu's etc back then. Now there are way too many to keep up with. LOL

And I always get rid of the bloatware then image the drive without them so I can restore without the bloatware. ;)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Ken. on March 23, 2015, 04:35:32 PM
That's a good looking product list.  :happy:

Choosing between those two power supplies will be difficult, both priced about the same, both have good reviews with 70%+ 5 star ratings for both. Overall the EVGA seems to rate a little higher, so that would sway me if I was ordering.
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Maxx on March 23, 2015, 06:35:22 PM
Doc wanted to let you know I purchased one of those Pwr supplies and it died after a few mins. It setting my closet, I read some other and this issue, so please keep this in mind when you test the machine you build..a few others had this issue also, mine was the EVGA 750watt unit! I have feeling they are made in the same factory!

Just an FYI !

Sorry I did not notice this one your list until Ken mentioned it!

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Maxx on March 23, 2015, 06:58:43 PM
When select the CPU. first visit the AMD or what ever manufacture's site look up the CPU use the complete numbers, and it will give you a spec chart as to what Ram they recommend to go with the CPU.

You should also find there the wattage and heat or temperatures and bus speed and other neat stuff.
Then you could best select the MOBO you'll need , or if you have a mother board, check if the cpu and ram will work well there.
Now there will some droughts, so what I do is look for the socket type, speed and bus and the wattage as low as I can, this is sometimes tricky, so you need to do some home work on those things! like you said there are many out there.

 so may need to go back and forth several time looking for the CPU speed Power and Price, then match the ram according to the CPU and MOBO specs.

I love AMD myself. :)

hope this helps!

maxx

Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on March 24, 2015, 09:00:13 AM
You should also figure in all cards you plan add such as video cards, etc as well as any devices you plan to plug into your USB ports...even if it is just for recharging their batteries. They will make a huge difference in how much power you'll be using. That being said, I have been considering getting a 750w since I plan to get a half-decent video card in the future.

Got the DVDBurner and HDD yesterday. The only problem I have is that the ad said it came with Nero Essentials...it didn't say that it was going to be a trial copy! Maybe I should have read the reviews more. :P But for $20 what do you expect?
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Maxx on March 24, 2015, 09:14:55 AM
Oh BTW, I would try to get a CPU that works well with Kingston Memory, all the others I've test had one or more strips came to me bad. I was really just suggesting how to match the board, CPU and memory and also wanted to let you I've had good luck withe Gigabyte MOBOs ! I had a few Asus top line boards that shut down after a few. I like ASUS but beware! :)

I have a ASUS 24" LCD/LED / monitor also ! Full HD HDMI/Digital/RGB watch hulu :)

The new Video cards Collect dust real fast in the their little fans! FYI.

Just thinking Bro!

regards,
Maxx 
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on March 24, 2015, 09:23:26 AM
I've used Gigabyte boards in the past and my current one is just that.

Yes, the newer cards have dual fans so good airflow is very important! ;)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on March 25, 2015, 09:51:44 AM
BTW, this new case can use up to 12 fans! So, unless I install them the wrong way I shouldn't have any cooling problems. LOL

Got the case yesterday and everything seems to be included. It does seem a tad flimsy. Especially, the way the door screws do in. More plastic than the metal I'm used to. It is toolless except for a few screws needed for the initial install. After that dvd's and drives slide in and out without any tools. And there's even a cutout for easy removel/changing of your CPU or water cooler!

Now I only need Windows and a PSU. However, I may use my old PSU just to get the things up and going. LOL

EDIT: Took another good look at the case. I like it but the trays for the drives are flimsy plastic but should work. They should also be less niosy than metal ones. We'll see and I should be bale to get more sturdy ones from somewhere if needed. I love the way you can route and hide the cabling! It also comes with black cable ties, etc. to help hide them and keep them tidy.  :cool2:
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Maxx on March 25, 2015, 10:40:11 AM
Yes they don't make the cases like they use to!

My AMD quad 2.9 GB ASUS is in a heavy case and the Intel quad 3.2  is is in a cheap case but sturdy steel. But for this ole fart the small case is easier to work with, small board Gigabyte both are for HG and HDMI on board and I gig video cards.

Using 4GB of memory on both and I run many programs at once. The only issue seem to be the FF takes allot of resources, But it's still my fav>! safer than the others!

I clean out the system ( flush ) out every week end! :)

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on March 25, 2015, 10:54:26 AM
Bumping the memory up to 8gb should help a bit. ;)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Ken. on March 25, 2015, 11:51:51 AM
The case should be OK because once assembled it will rarely move, except for any case or card fans and some hard drives.
Engineering designs have evolved over the years too the point where the individual parts of a structure may be light weight or flimsy, but once everything is assembled it stiffens up and becomes more structurally sound.

Case in point, some motorcycle designs call for the engine to be part of the frame assembly instead of just sitting in the frame... and, speaking of motorcycles, I needs to get one and start riding again.  :hah:
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Maxx on March 25, 2015, 01:33:45 PM
I totally agree on the cases, and they much easier to work with. On memory I was not complaining , I guess was trying to hint you may not need 8gb at first, the newer windows runs allot better than the Vista, That was A hog on resources.
Actually I had 8GB and took some out, once the video card freed up some. Mine are working just fine with 4GB. :)

regards,
Maxx

Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on March 26, 2015, 10:16:19 AM
The case should be OK because once assembled it will rarely move, except for any case or card fans and some hard drives.
Engineering designs have evolved over the years too the point where the individual parts of a structure may be light weight or flimsy, but once everything is assembled it stiffens up and becomes more structurally sound.
Well ,it does have good reviews so I'll try it and see. If I nee to make any "enhancements" I'll deal with it later.

Case in point, some motorcycle designs call for the engine to be part of the frame assembly instead of just sitting in the frame... and, speaking of motorcycles, I needs to get one and start riding again.  :hah:
The problem is...will Kay let you?  :rofl1:

I totally agree on the cases, and they much easier to work with. On memory I was not complaining , I guess was trying to hint you may not need 8gb at first, the newer windows runs allot better than the Vista, That was A hog on resources.
Actually I had 8GB and took some out, once the video card freed up some. Mine are working just fine with 4GB. :)

regards,
Maxx


I already got 8gb...2 sticks 4 each for it. I currently have 4gb on my current one. I plan to do a lot of things with this so I may need more than 8 in the furute...
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on March 27, 2015, 09:19:12 AM
Power supply, Win 8.1 and Thermal Paste ordered and will be here tomorrow guaranteed! :)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Ken. on March 27, 2015, 02:55:50 PM
The problem is...will Kay let you?  :rofl1:

She sez... NO!  :brat:

Her reasoning, she thinks that our age our reflexes are no longer up to the task.  :(
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on March 27, 2015, 09:40:45 PM
Well, take some viagara and show her you are up to the task!  :hah:
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Ken. on March 28, 2015, 06:18:28 AM
Well, take some viagara and show her you are up to the task!  :hah:

Different task Steve... different task.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on March 28, 2015, 06:21:17 AM
But it should help with reflexes...I would think.  :rofl1:

And if the motorcycle thing doesn't work out, at least she'll be a happy camper. ;)
 
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Ken. on March 28, 2015, 06:27:24 AM
But it should help with reflexes...I would think.  :rofl1:

And if the motorcycle thing doesn't work out, at least she'll be a happy camper. ;)

 :whistle:
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on March 28, 2015, 06:36:17 AM
Just try it and let us know of the results.  :rofl1:
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Ken. on March 28, 2015, 06:51:46 AM
Just try it and let us know of the results.  :rofl1:

Err... no.  :hah:
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on March 28, 2015, 02:51:40 PM
Crap! I forgot to order the anti-static wrist band.  :baghead:

Rosewill RTK-002 Anti-Static Wrist Strap Components Black, Yellow (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004N8ZQKY/ref=s9_simh_co_p422_d0_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=left-1&pf_rd_r=0NRKMQ20VRR2FS1QNN2N&pf_rd_t=3201&pf_rd_p=1953562742&pf_rd_i=typ01)

It will arrive tomorrow...  :whistle:
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Ken. on March 28, 2015, 03:09:15 PM
Crap! I forgot to order the anti-static wrist band.  :baghead:

Rosewill RTK-002 Anti-Static Wrist Strap Components Black, Yellow (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004N8ZQKY/ref=s9_simh_co_p422_d0_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=left-1&pf_rd_r=0NRKMQ20VRR2FS1QNN2N&pf_rd_t=3201&pf_rd_p=1953562742&pf_rd_i=typ01)

It will arrive tomorrow...  :whistle:

Hate it when that happens!  :hah:
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on March 28, 2015, 03:20:10 PM
I looked at them and picked one out but for some reason I forgot about it and never added it to the order yesterday. It dawned on me when I was looking for some of Lealer's fabrics for a backgroud pic and one shocked me...not good!

At least, I've got the pics taken. I just need to take some after it is completed tomorrow.
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on March 28, 2015, 05:02:56 PM
Now, the only other things I will get later for it are some colored fans, matching colored cables and a video card. I haven't decided on the color of the fans and cables yet...maybe blue...as usual, like my other builds. Except for one which had tri-color fans. I'll also need a matching colored keyboard and mouse.
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Maxx on March 30, 2015, 08:05:03 AM
I like and use the thermo controlled Blue fans, and you may want check how many fan control plugs you have on the board, for the Thermo  controls? You should find that the new windows will not run so hot, like the Vista does, and much faster, with less stress in the machines inner resources! 

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on March 30, 2015, 09:34:13 AM
The mobo is designed to accomodate 4 separate fans to be speed-controlled by the BIOS and are easily adjustable. The case can hold up to 10 fans! To add more than 4, I'd have to use a controller similar to this, which I have been looking at:

http://www.amazon.com/NZXT-Technologies-5-4-Inch-Controller-AC-SEN-3-B1/dp/B00KJGYLNM/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1427721827&sr=1-1&keywords=fan+controller (http://www.amazon.com/NZXT-Technologies-5-4-Inch-Controller-AC-SEN-3-B1/dp/B00KJGYLNM/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1427721827&sr=1-1&keywords=fan+controller)

That controls up to 5 fans individually...not including the ones connected to the mobo. You connect the fans directly to it and it fits in a bay just like a dvd player/burner. I plan on getting a nice video card later so it is possible that I may need more than the 3 fans included in the case.

Speaking of fans, I've decided on getting red fans and red cabling. The case comes with one black fan (in the rear) and 2 white fans (in the front).

The case seems very dust resistant! The cutouts for the drive bays actually have holes in them and are fitted with foam that can be cleaned. The bottom of the case has 2 openings for fans AND a removable dust screen for easy cleaning.

OK, back to building...I took a short break.  :hah:
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on March 30, 2015, 11:55:48 AM
PC is assembled and the wires are hidden VERY well!  :dancebun:

Tomorrow I will install Win 8.1 and probably the MANY, MANY updates it has!  :groan:
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Maxx on March 30, 2015, 03:46:01 PM
Good deal Bro and there will be many updates for the next few days or so., :)

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Ken. on March 31, 2015, 04:16:08 AM
It's getting close now!
Looking forward to performance details  :happy:
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on March 31, 2015, 04:44:17 AM
Speed is very nice and much improved! Almost 10 sec to boot...without a SSD!

Spent the night updating and adding programs. If I stick my hand on the front panel it stays cold which tells me it is drawing in enough cold air. With my hand on the back it's not as cold but still cool so it's keeping it cool.

So far, an overall great experience. hardware and software installation was very quick and smooth. Even the 60+ windows updates took less than 20 minutes!

I added my previous video card nvidia 8600 GT...yeah, it's old but works very well! And added my old drives so I can get my bookmarks, files, etc...
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Ken. on March 31, 2015, 05:42:58 AM
Reusing old cards works well sometimes... my shop PC has a video card that has seen three different setups and still works well, even though it is a little dated by today's standards.  ;D

Sounds like this build is living up to your expectations?
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on March 31, 2015, 06:09:06 AM
Pretty much for what I paid for it. :) There are actually some enhancements I did not expect and consider them as extras. :)

The inside of the case now looks uncluttered and cable-free mostly thanks to the ample room on the right side of the case behind where the mobo sits. Most of the open sides of the case are insulated with foam to keep dust out and can be easily cleaned. Instead of the drives being installed facing front to back...they are sitting sideways. The backside with the cabling is sitting toward the right side of the case where the cables are mostly hidden. The caddies they sit in seem to be made of cheap plastic but if it was hard metal then it would probably rattle and create more noise. ...and it is pretty quiet. I currently have it sitting on a table right next to the keyboard I'm typing on and it is as quiet or less that my previous one that was sitting near the floor! It is actually inches from my face!

The MIC and headphone inputs are on the front of the case (there are inputs in the back via direct MOBO input) instead of the back which is a good thing. Most older cases do not have this. You don't have to climb under a desk to insert the jacks. The BIOS comes with great software to control the fans, voltage, and auto flashing of the BIOS. The MOBO also came with software to use within Windows to control/change some of these on the fly! It has many nice features for the novice like a basic mode and a more advanced mode for overclockers who wish to squeeze every ounce of performance out of their system.

And of course, you can upgrade the hardware to get even more out of it later which will save me money. ;)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Maxx on March 31, 2015, 07:40:07 AM
Glad you got it done!

Have fun, they are real smooth running!

regards,
Max
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on April 01, 2015, 09:09:58 AM
Got just about everything installed I need...
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Ken. on April 01, 2015, 03:38:46 PM
Got just about everything installed I need...

Errr... how can we tell with no pictures???  :hah:
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on April 02, 2015, 08:02:29 AM
Haven't processed them yet. Which reminds me...I can now download Nikon Capture NX-D:

http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/microsite/capturenxd/ (http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/microsite/capturenxd/)

It is a 296MB download...  :whistle:

But if you've ever tried Lightroom you'll find it's very similar but FREE! Here's some of the features:

http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/microsite/capturenxd/interface/
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Ken. on April 03, 2015, 06:47:11 AM
Looks like a good software for your Nikon... my Canon has a similar app called ImageBrowser EX that is very good.
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on April 03, 2015, 09:55:40 AM
Got just about everything installed I need...

Errr... how can we tell with no pictures???  :hah:

I have off Sunday night so I've got an extra day with nothing to do all weekend except cook Easter dinner. And I'm starting that now! LMAO I'll try out the new Nikon software later today. :)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on April 03, 2015, 10:11:10 AM
I forgot to mention...got a new power supply last weekend too.  :whistle:

http://www.insigniaproducts.com/products/home-office/NS-PWS5129.html
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Maxx on April 03, 2015, 10:31:14 AM
Sounds good the MOVs react in 1/10000's of second to kill/suppress out the 10 to 100's of thousands on RMS Volts of noise caused by lighting transmitted though high power lines during a storm.

The power lines act like Long wire Antennas use the HF transmission! I don't think there is anything to date that is faster than Metal Oxide Varisters. I use to install commercial grade 3 phase units on the Power li8nes going into factories. and labs like the solar Observatories  to protect the complete buildings wiring. FM radio station on top of High Mountains hit the antennas daily.

They take the noise straight to ground

Good stuff! smart move!

regards,
Maxx



Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on April 03, 2015, 10:40:10 AM
I like that the top row of plugs are always on and the bottom are controlled by the master. If the master is off or unplugged that row of plugs will not turn on.

Speaking of lightning, I'd love to get some pics of some. Hopefully, this year I will. :)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on April 05, 2015, 09:50:52 AM
Pics are being processed...as soon as I get used to the new software. It's different now...seems not as user-friendly. Or maybe just not what I'm used to...
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Ken. on April 05, 2015, 12:08:46 PM
Or maybe just not what I'm used to...

 :groan: any excuse is better than none.



j/k... can't wait.
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on April 05, 2015, 06:52:57 PM
LOL! It's just that for Vista they had separate programs for transferring the photos from the camera as well as editing, etc. Now, it's all in one program and works differently. I had a big problem with batch processing the photos. But I've finally got it sorted...after creating way too many extra copies! LMAO

I didn't actually take any photos of me putting it together cause it would have taken too long and I wanted it put together ASAP. I did take photos of each component separately.

(http://docskillz.com/docs/images/DSC_0036_001.jpg)

(http://docskillz.com/docs/images/DSC_0037_002.jpg)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on April 05, 2015, 07:02:39 PM
(http://docskillz.com/docs/images/DSC_0039_004.jpg)

(http://docskillz.com/docs/images/DSC_0041_006.jpg)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on April 05, 2015, 07:06:52 PM
(http://docskillz.com/docs/images/DSC_0043_008.jpg)

(http://docskillz.com/docs/images/DSC_0044_009.jpg)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on April 05, 2015, 07:08:29 PM
(http://docskillz.com/docs/images/DSC_0045_010.jpg)

(http://docskillz.com/docs/images/DSC_0046_011.jpg)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on April 05, 2015, 07:09:22 PM
(http://docskillz.com/docs/images/DSC_0047_012.jpg)

(http://docskillz.com/docs/images/DSC_0048_013.jpg)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on April 05, 2015, 07:10:30 PM
(http://docskillz.com/docs/images/DSC_0049_014.jpg)

(http://docskillz.com/docs/images/DSC_0050_015.jpg)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on April 05, 2015, 07:11:51 PM
(http://docskillz.com/docs/images/DSC_0052_016.jpg)

(http://docskillz.com/docs/images/DSC_0053_017.jpg)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on April 05, 2015, 07:14:07 PM
(http://docskillz.com/docs/images/DSC_0054_018.jpg)
(http://docskillz.com/docs/images/DSC_0055_019.jpg)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on April 05, 2015, 07:15:16 PM
(http://docskillz.com/docs/images/DSC_0056_020.jpg)

(http://docskillz.com/docs/images/DSC_0057_021.jpg)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on April 05, 2015, 07:16:10 PM
(http://docskillz.com/docs/images/DSC_0058_022.jpg)

(http://docskillz.com/docs/images/DSC_0059_023.jpg)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on April 05, 2015, 07:17:08 PM
(http://docskillz.com/docs/images/DSC_0060_024.jpg)

(http://docskillz.com/docs/images/DSC_0061_025.jpg)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on April 05, 2015, 07:17:47 PM
(http://docskillz.com/docs/images/DSC_0062_026.jpg)

Done! For now. LOL
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Ken. on April 06, 2015, 05:20:08 AM
I've said it before, but will say it again... I like that case.  :hah:

Good job Steve.
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on April 06, 2015, 05:24:28 AM
The pics below show a removable screen that goes on the bottom of the case for the PSU and/or fans. I think I like that part best.



(http://docskillz.com/docs/images/DSC_0056_020.jpg)

(http://docskillz.com/docs/images/DSC_0057_021.jpg)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Maxx on April 06, 2015, 07:46:05 AM
Good Job Bro... looking good, I love that screen thing! MY ASUS machine case has small filter all over, but, just clean them with the VAC. you could do the same, if Vac is good and strong, it will pull dust from grill and fan if any!

The I'll take it apart every spring, for good cleaning and Preventive Maintenance.

I'm with Ken love that Case... good find! that MOBO looks real fine! I like the cooling system on it and I have one almost like it!

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on April 06, 2015, 07:53:43 AM
The front panel including the DVD drive bay blanks and fan areas have holes in the case with foam directly behind them and can be easily vacuumed or even removed for washing, if needed. If you put your hand on the front of the case it stays very cold but is very quiet.

I usually clean out my PC 1-2 times a year as well.

I'll take a pic with the right side off (when I get a chance) so you can see the tangled mess of cabling that is hidden. LOL
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on April 14, 2015, 08:53:19 AM
I was thinking...I may get a modular PSU later. Modular means less cables. You only use the cables you need by plugging them into the psu then into your hardware. Less cables to deal with. Something like this:

www.corsair.com/en-us/rm-series-rm650-80-plus-gold-certified-power-supply (http://www.corsair.com/en-us/rm-series-rm650-80-plus-gold-certified-power-supply)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Ken. on April 15, 2015, 11:14:33 AM
That would surly clean up the insides of a case.
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on April 17, 2015, 08:56:56 PM
I was out at Best Buy looking for a WD Black 1TB drive but they didn't have any. Since money was burning a hole in my pocket (hee hee) I looked around the store and these 2 things:

Logitech Multimedia Speakers Z200 (http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/multimedia-speakers-z200?crid=47) - They adequate...for now. But not my usual musical standard. I may give them to one of my kids later for a full surround sound set like I had before.

j5create's high-performance USB 3.0 4-port Mini Hub (http://j5create.com/our-products/usb-hub/juh340.html)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Maxx on April 18, 2015, 07:35:22 AM
I like that HUB looks very nice!

I like Logitech but never liked their PC Audio stuff, But they do make some great accessories and Keyboards! I accually have better lock with them than MS and HP accessories JMHO!

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on April 18, 2015, 11:19:33 AM
Actually, their high end stuff is pretty good. It's the cheap ones that are not good. It's not as good as Bose or Klipsch but their high end stuff is a lot cheaper than those 2. Bose is probably the best tho...

I was thinking about getting these as they are surround sound.

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/speaker-system-z523?crid=1589

The last set I bought had a subwoofer and 4 satelites...2 for the front and 2 for the back and could attach them to walls for a full surround sound experience.
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Maxx on April 18, 2015, 02:22:15 PM
What I do and this just me< I buy the sound equipment, Mix and match, the specs, and buy parts at a time> like the Denon Reliever, 100 watts RMS per Chanel times 5.1, got on special, the Pioneer Left and right Front priced at 800.00, I got on special for around 200, and the Pioneer Rear speakers.,(  all Speaker are rated 100 watts) It got cheap at 59.00 ea. the Polk Audio Sub woofer sound activated at around 100+ on super special.( has it own 80watt amp. Thunder if needed.

The Denon controls about 6 HDMI out puts, auto senses the inputs.

The thing is that I worked as Station engineer at a rock station, and I have a long Electronic back ground, I know what to to look for and I' very picky about the sound.

But when ever I listen to music, I use 3 Chanel stereo front and sub woofer. I 'll have give more details on the setup later, but it like the recording studio, but better.

Don't music in surround sound, it destroys the quality!

The ASUS sound chip set and system equalize works miracles, in find tuning the sound. keeping the amp (denon ( flat)

I have seen systems that cost thousands of dollars , that can match what I have :)

Unless your talking, live!

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on April 18, 2015, 03:12:10 PM
I do the same...for my home entertainment system, not for my PC. Pioneer is arguably the best, imo. Have used that brand for many, many years including their turntables when I used to DJ...those or Technics. Polk Audio is also very good. But for speakers you can't beat Bose! They are very expensive but the sound quality is unmatched.

I've been around recording studios for many years, Philly International, Sigma Sound to name a few as well as quite a few personal home studios for some Philly artists.

Surround sound does not destroy the sound quality IF it is setup correctly. The problem is that most people do not know how to set the quality of the sound to match the speaker placement .vs the other objects in the room. They also do not know how to correctly place all of the speakers so they work properly so it sounds like how it does in a good movie theater. ;) The arrangement of the other furniture in the room as well as what is on the walls or how they are built also makes a big difference. Think sound proofed room! I've built a few when I was in construction many years ago. ;)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on April 30, 2015, 10:23:40 AM
Been thinking about getting a new desk lamp and found this:

Desk Lamp (http://www.amazon.com/LAMPAT-Dimmable-Lighting-Relaxation-Touch-Sensitive/dp/B00KSQ8ZNA/ref=sr_1_3?s=lamps-light&ie=UTF8&qid=1430402406&sr=1-3&keywords=lamps)

EDIT: And looking at this router to replace the default Verizon router I have.  :baghead:

ASUS 802.11ac Dual-Band Wireless-AC1750 Gigabit Router (http://www.amazon.com/RT-AC66U-Dual-Band-Wireless-AC1750-Gigabit-Router/dp/B008ABOJKS/ref=dp_ob_title_ce)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Maxx on April 30, 2015, 11:39:36 AM
Good Stuff Bro... What do you think It's Christmas :)_ I had and LED flex type and it was too focus in one area! Not sure about this one though, looks a bit expensive ?

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Ken. on April 30, 2015, 04:42:21 PM
That looks like a good router.

Me like this one (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Linksys-WRT1900AC-Wireless-AC-Router/36921715).  :whistle:
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on May 01, 2015, 06:56:56 AM
Good Stuff Bro... What do you think It's Christmas :)_ I had and LED flex type and it was too focus in one area! Not sure about this one though, looks a bit expensive ?

regards,
Maxx
A bit but the LED is supposed to last 5 years with normal use! ;)

That looks like a good router.

Me like this one (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Linksys-WRT1900AC-Wireless-AC-Router/36921715).  :whistle:
Linksys is a good brand for routers and work well with linux...probably better than the rest. But that one is too expensive for me, for a router.
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Ken. on May 01, 2015, 07:06:42 AM
I know, just being funny... cost is always a factor for me on stuff like this, or on anything actually.  :happy:
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on May 01, 2015, 07:13:20 AM
I think this version was the first one that worked with linux out-of-the-box:

http://www.amazon.com/Linksys-WRT54GL-Wireless-G-Broadband-Router/dp/B000BTL0OA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1430478628&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Linksys-WRT54GL-Wireless-G-Broadband-Router/dp/B000BTL0OA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1430478628&sr=8-1)

..and is now designed specifically for linux.
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Maxx on May 01, 2015, 08:55:34 AM
Doc this is the one I have and Have add for over 10 years with -out fail, mine was  way  over 100 bucks back then, but it's good and, you can setup security nicely with it, good firmware. Cpanel!

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on May 01, 2015, 09:01:10 AM
Yes, it is still probably the most popular model after all of these years. LOL
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on May 29, 2015, 11:57:33 AM
I'm thinking about getting this SSD drive:

Crucial MX100 512 GB SATA (http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-MX100-2-5-Inch-Internal-CT512MX100SSD1/dp/B00KFAGCUM/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1432913033&sr=8-3&keywords=500gb+ssd)

It's rated very well...better than the highly rated Samsung...  :whistle:
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Maxx on May 29, 2015, 12:07:18 PM
Sorry My friends, But I'm not excited at all about SSD's and I have feeling they may be giving them away in the end. Just the Cut talking!

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on May 29, 2015, 12:09:23 PM
I do like the idea of the speed enhancements but there is talk of them not having long longevity like the regular hd's...
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on June 12, 2015, 10:30:13 PM
I've finally decided on this:

WD Black 2TB Performance Desktop Hard Drive (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FJRS628/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=desktop-1&pf_rd_r=1R9MEDV46GREA3CKQ67D&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=2079475242&pf_rd_i=desktop)

I'll post my reasons in another topic soon. Stay tuned...same Bat time, same Bat channel.  :hah:
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Ken. on June 13, 2015, 05:10:07 AM
Whoa!  :hah:

Now me officially jealous! 
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Maxx on June 13, 2015, 06:49:22 AM
Sounds like and plan, and for purpose I'd Keep Back ups!

The solid state Drives, I think will get slow the more they are load up with Data!

So far not one issue with the WD Black 1TB, but I keep it maintained always!

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on June 13, 2015, 07:42:08 AM
That's not the SSD version, those are way too expensive. However, I will get a 500GB SSD for my main drive, eventually. This one is mainly for storage.

I might partition 500GB of it for linux but then again I do have another 1TB, a 500GB, and a 150GB. Hmmmm, might be best to transfer everything from the 500GB to one of the TB drives and use the 500 just for linux. Then I won't have to partition anything.
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Ken. on June 13, 2015, 08:38:16 AM
Using the 500 for Linux sounds the better plan... although, if it were me I would likely use the 150 for Linux and add the 500 as a second drive on it or the 2T.  ;D

EDIT: If you do decide to put Linux on the 2T you might want to read this:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DiskSpace
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on June 13, 2015, 08:43:17 AM
I thought of that but the 150 is pretty old. 500GB would work well, especially if I decide to use it a lot more. I'll probably need the extra room. I just need to decide what to do if I want to test a different distro. I may still partition one of the TB's for that.
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Ken. on June 13, 2015, 08:47:52 AM
Check my edit above for info on large drives and Linux dual boots.
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on June 13, 2015, 08:58:12 AM
Yes, I know about that and that's the way you used to have to do it. And the preferred way it you'd like a larger /swap for maybe running it on a slower system.

Today, most distros will ask for a drive or partition and create the other partitions need within that one drive or partition. I've been using my 500GB for testing various distros. I partitioned it into 2 equal partitions. Before I install a distro, I'll wipe one of the partitions and during the install I'll just choose that one and let the install do its thing. You must choose "Custom" install for this or some distros will install to the first drive or partition it finds! That may not be what you want. Most linux distros will not touch a Windows partition but as they say, better safe than sorry! I have deleted a Windows partition once.  :groan:

You don't have to change anything else in the "Custom" settings. Linux will add it's own /swap, /etc, etc...(lol) partitions as needed. ;)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on June 14, 2015, 03:34:46 PM
The 2TB HD was delivered about an hour ago. ;D
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on June 27, 2015, 05:56:59 AM
Bought a new webcam last night. It will be delivered tomorrow:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004YW7WCY?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004YW7WCY?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00)

I started to get this but then didn't see a need to spend the extra bucks for something I probably won't be using a lot:

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Webcam-Widescreen-Calling-Recording/dp/B006JH8T3S/ref=pd_sim_147_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=179WMFP7FAFMQ2282729 (http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Webcam-Widescreen-Calling-Recording/dp/B006JH8T3S/ref=pd_sim_147_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=179WMFP7FAFMQ2282729)

I also got two USB extension cables:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NH12O5I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NH12O5I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

And two 32GB Micro SDHC memory cards:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M55C0NS?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M55C0NS?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Ken. on June 27, 2015, 01:08:22 PM
That is turning out to be quite the rig Steve.  :cool2:
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on June 28, 2015, 04:29:10 PM
Got the webcam and the rest about 1.5 hours ago... Webcam works well. :)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Ken. on June 28, 2015, 07:02:03 PM
We're looking for some pics.  :happy:
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Maxx on June 29, 2015, 07:33:13 AM
Now you can watch them, watching you, watching them :)

Last time I used mine I scared myself :)

Is this you? is that me?

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Maxx on August 10, 2015, 10:24:52 AM
What I do and this just me< I buy the sound equipment, Mix and match, the specs, and buy parts at a time> like the Denon Reliever, 100 watts RMS per Chanel times 5.1, got on special, the Pioneer Left and right Front priced at 800.00, I got on special for around 200, and the Pioneer Rear speakers.,(  all Speaker are rated 100 watts) It got cheap at 59.00 ea. the Polk Audio Sub woofer sound activated at around 100+ on super special.( has it own 80watt amp. Thunder if needed.

The Denon controls about 6 HDMI out puts, auto senses the inputs.

The thing is that I worked as Station engineer at a rock station, and I have a long Electronic back ground, I know what to to look for and I' very picky about the sound.

But when ever I listen to music, I use 3 Chanel stereo front and sub woofer. I 'll have give more details on the setup later, but it like the recording studio, but better.

Don't music in surround sound, it destroys the quality!

The ASUS sound chip set and system equalize works miracles, in find tuning the sound. keeping the amp (denon ( flat)

I have seen systems that cost thousands of dollars , that can match what I have :)

Unless your talking, live!

regards,
Maxx

the main reason I have this unit is the it has many HDMI inputs and out to Navigate all my Computer and Video stuff through it:

here are the sects, and this just general in of for those that may find it usefull! :

Denon AVR-E200 5.1 Channel A/V Receiver with 3D Video Pass-Through

Powerful 5.1 Channel AV Receiver with 3D Video Pass-through & Easy Setup with Easy Connections

Enjoy thrilling 5.1 channel surround sound with Denon's AVR-E200 AV receiver, which features easy setup and easy connections and which provides an on-screen text and graphical display that greatly simplifies setup and operation. Packed with features, the AVR-E200 includes the latest high resolution audio decoders, including Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for the ultimate surround sound experience with your favorite Blu-ray movies and music concerts. There are 4 HDMI inputs, including 1 conveniently located on the front panel, and there's also a convenient 3.5mm stereo audio input on the front panel that lets you connect your favorite portable audio device. With our exclusive Compressed Audio Restorer function, you'll hear improved fidelity with compressed audio sources such as MP3 tracks.

Easy to Setup and Easy to Use

Via the text and graphical on screen display, you can easily make all necessary adjustments and settings during setup, to quickly and easily optimize the AVR-E200 for your particular speaker setup and compatibility with your source equipment. The speaker connections on the rear panel are color-coded for quick and easy connection, and the supplied color-coded speaker cable labels ensure correct hookup the very first time.

The easy to use remote control features discrete source selection buttons that let you choose your preferred source with the touch of one button (no need to toggle through all the inputs to get to your preferred source component).The AVR-E200 also features Denon's easy to use Quick Select function, which provides 4 Quick Select buttons on the front panel and on the remote control that let you instantly choose from the Cable/Satellite, Blu-ray, Game and Aux inputs, and you can customize each one with your preferred sound settings for that particular source and then they'll be remembered each time.

High Power, High Quality 5 Channel Power Amplifier Design

A hallmark of Denon's legendary sound quality is the use of identical power amp circuitry for all channels, including our all-discrete power amplifier output stage design. Rated at a maximum of 165 watts for each of the 5 channels, the AVR-E200 provides high power and wide dynamic range with low distortion for a superb surround sound listening experience.

4 HDMI Video Inputs with 1080p HDMI Pass-through and 3D HDMI Pass-through

The AVR-E200 is equipped with 4 HDMI inputs, including 3 on the rear panel and 1 on the front panel, which lets you quickly and easily connect your HDMI-equipped camcorder, smartphone or other portable multimedia device. With HDMI Standby Pass-through, you can enjoy a program from your cable or satellite tuner on your TV without the need to turn the AVR-E200 on, which is ideal for casual viewing of newscasts and the like.

Speaker Compatibility

With the AVR-E200, you can connect and enjoy just about any combination of speaker sizes and types, thanks to the variable crossover points which allow mixing and matching of differing speakers. You can connect compact speakers, standard-size speakers, even full size speakers as well as a subwoofer and optimize the settings for each type, based on their characteristics.

Features:

State-of-the-art Denon Solutions for Maximizing Content Quality

   Maximum power, 165 watts, 5 channels
   All-discrete output stages with equal power and identical quality on all channels
   Supports 1080P and 3D video pass-through
   High definition audio support including Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio
   High-performance 192kHz/24-bit D/A converters for all channels
   Denons proprietary Compressed Audio Restorer delivers improved fidelity with compressed music sources such as MP3 tracks

Connectivity

   Supports HDMI with 3D pass-through, Deep Color and x.v.Color
   Convenient front panel HDMI input for connecting a camcorder or g

Around $ 169.00...now at Newegg.com
  Learn more about the Denon AVR-E200  GeneralBrandDenonModelAVR-E200ColorBlackChannels5.1-ChannelProcessingD/A Converter192kHz/24-bitRadioFM/AM TunerIncludedConnectivityHDMI4 In / 1 OutFeaturesFeatures5 Channel discrete amplification (Maximum power: 165 watts per 5 channel)

Easy to connect with color-coded speaker terminals and supplied matching color cable tags

Easy and quick access to your favorite sources with Quick Select and preferred sound settings

4 HDMI inputs, including 1 front panel HDMI input with 1080p and 3D pass-through

Convenient front panel 3.5mm stereo input jack for quick and easy connection to your portable music device

Experience 165 watts x 5 channels

Delivers the legendary sound quality you've come to expect from Denon

Enjoy 3D video entertainment with dynamic surround sound with our 3D pass-through technology

Easy set-up through on-screen graphical display

Color-coded speaker connections ensure correct hook-up the very first timeDimensions & WeightDimensions17.1" x 5.9" x 12.6" (W x H x D)Weight17.2 lbs.

Great pricing!

maxx

regards,
Maxx

Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on August 11, 2015, 09:04:17 AM
Sounds great!

Denon and Carver receivers along with Pioneer speakers and turntables were my favs. ;)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Maxx on August 11, 2015, 09:23:37 AM
I have an Older Pioneer Rev/AMP in perfect condition, But I had to get this one to distribute My Video Paths, and with the POLK audio sound activated Sub Woofer and Pioneer speakers. It Really Kicks butt.

I use many Tascam equipments, when I work the FM station, for production live air stuff. Had many type Turn table back when, and wish I still had them!
I still have my Pioneer 25 disc CD player working great when I last tried it. You can find them any where now! Had a 75 disc at one time, gave it to my son and he sold it, :( Kids?
Love the Pioneer!

regards,
Maxx

Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on August 11, 2015, 09:35:21 AM
Polk Audio was also very good!
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Maxx on August 11, 2015, 11:22:39 AM
Say Bro... Have look at this one 4gb video Card:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8573343&Sku=RLH-102014205

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on August 12, 2015, 09:07:27 AM
Not a bad card...I need to research these a bit more.
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Maxx on August 12, 2015, 09:22:43 AM
Steve,

I had to cancel mine the ASUS because I'm not sure about the Drivers for Windows 10.. and I'm gonna do the same..research, need to see if mine can use that card I sent you the link to the 4gb :)

I did update the Drivers on my New Dell, it was missing 10... found out by using the Slimdrivers (Free)
scanner. It also installs the drivers free. Kool app!

Also I posted I found the Chipset .. Graphics driver for my New GegaByte Intel PC, my main Machine!
If you get this slimdrivers make certain it for Cnet or you will get a Hacking ware!

I think I posted the link@!

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on August 12, 2015, 09:30:31 AM
Yeah, I've noticed there are a lot of download managers lately on a lot of sites that didn't use those things before. If I find out a site uses them I no longer download any thing from there.
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Maxx on August 12, 2015, 10:04:20 AM
After using the program I suggested I got all my Intel drivers updated and install on my new Dell and now the HD works like it was designed to do, befor that it was boring, and widows 10 did not find the drivers I need!\

It comes only with one baggage ware and that is or can be uninstall as soon as you do you driver scan for free! works great! on 2 of my Intel Machines!

For AMD I did another post for those driver updated at the AMD support site just in the last few days!

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on August 12, 2015, 10:28:29 AM
So everything is work as it's supposed to now?

Sorry, talking a lot with the gf...
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Maxx on August 12, 2015, 10:52:47 AM
Yes this correct! and No problem Bro... I'm cleaning Machines and desk and organizing all the new Meds they gave me, Why did I get started now I got allot to be done yet! :)

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Ken. on August 13, 2015, 03:14:34 PM
So... hows about an update?
Tell us how it's working now, how you like it, are there any issues or dislikes? We need to know this stuff!  :hah:


And, a few pictures would be a good thing.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on August 15, 2015, 05:23:22 AM
So far, everything works very well!

The only issues I've had were updating the drivers for the DVD but were fixed. And an issues with updating my old video card which was also fixed.

Win 10 seems to be working fine, atm with the exception of the privacy issues. I think I've blocked those. I'll try to get some pics soon.
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Maxx on August 15, 2015, 09:44:52 AM
Steve.. on my dual monitor using the Asus 1GB video card NVIDA I can now multi task in two separate windows, Create a theme in one monitor and check live in the other with a browser at the same time.

WE just grab one application move it to the other or second monitor with the mouse ... this real!

I think for with 8 up you can do this with the windows monitor settings in the setup!

How To Use Dual Monitors In Windows 8 https://youtu.be/P5gGE6jAC-s
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on August 15, 2015, 11:39:34 AM
Coll! I think Les uses 3 monitors or is it 4???

I have problems keeping up with one sometimes. LOL
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on December 31, 2015, 11:18:40 AM
Well, the Christmas and birthday Gods were good to me so I've purchased a few things for Blacken...

SanDisk Extreme PRO 480GB SSD (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KHRYRLY?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00)

SABRENT 2.5 to 3.5 Inches Internal Hard Disk Drive Mounting Kit (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00G57BN1M?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Ken. on December 31, 2015, 05:33:19 PM
Nice HDD Steve.  8)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on January 01, 2016, 01:32:29 AM
I'm glad that they've finally come down in price a lot!
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Ronald on January 01, 2016, 01:09:39 PM
What are these two being uses for?
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on January 01, 2016, 01:18:01 PM
The SSD hard drives are MUCH faster than standard hard drives and will dramatically increase the time it takes for your PC to boot and for programs to load. They were pretty expensive but have really dropped in price recently. If it wasn't for the price I would have got one for my primary C drive when I started building this.

The mounting kit is for installing it into a standard hard drive/DVD bay since they are much smaller. You screw it into the mounting kit then install it into your PC case as you would a normal extra or secondary hard drive.
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Ronald on January 01, 2016, 01:31:49 PM
Sounds exciting..
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on January 03, 2016, 04:49:08 PM
Just delivered!
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on January 04, 2016, 10:37:32 AM
Wrong box but out for delivery now tracking says...
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on February 13, 2016, 04:46:52 PM
Got this today from Bestbuy.

EVGA - GeForce GTX 960 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/evga-geforce-gtx-960-2gb-gddr5-pci-express-3-0-graphics-card-black/4047283.p?id=1219618220101&skuId=4047283)
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on February 16, 2016, 12:11:22 AM
Got it installed and downloaded Rise Of The Tomb Raider which took a day and a half. :P

But...the game is awesome and the graphics are absolutely amazing!!!  :ohmy2: No lag in the game whatsoever!!!

Now, I should be getting my cable tomorrow then I can clone my c: drive and make the SSD my primary drive and can so how fast this badboy will fly.
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Ken. on February 16, 2016, 03:39:23 AM
This is sounding great Steve... can't wait to hear how it comes along!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on July 02, 2016, 07:34:46 AM
Got 2 new parts yesterday:

Aperture M Multi-card Reader (https://www.nzxt.com/products/aperture-m)

Corsair Vengeance 2x8GB (16GB) 2400MHZ DDR3 Memory Sticks (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233585) - And the red on them matches my red fans and the red inside the case!
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Ken. on July 06, 2016, 04:13:40 PM
Both of those sound great!  :hah:

Curious to hear what the ram will do for your speed.
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on July 07, 2016, 08:07:35 AM
Me too. Will install it this weekend...or tomorrow.
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on July 09, 2016, 07:43:44 AM
Ok, I installed both and haven't tried the card reader yet. However, I have noticed an improved speed with loading programs! No more "Working on it..." as when you try to use File Manager, etc. Programs load right away!

At first, the BIOS only recognized the speed for 1333Mhz and these are 2400Mhz. So, after reading the motherboard's manual, I've found I had to tweak the O.C. settings and it worked! The programs did load faster even when using the 1333Mhz so that means more memory will load Windows faster! More Mhz speed will make it run even faster!

Going to go shower and out to the local diner for some pancakes and sausages! LOL
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Ken. on July 10, 2016, 08:00:17 AM
Sounds good... glad that you're seeing good results.  :happy:
Title: Re: Steve's Rig 2015
Post by: Skhilled on July 10, 2016, 09:26:12 AM
Thanks! I started to just go for 32GB but decided to use 16 to see how it goes. Now I'll probably go for another 16 to make it 32.
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