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The Good Stuff => SMF Forum Help => Topic started by: Skhilled on April 22, 2015, 08:25:29 AM

Title: Responsive Curve Mod
Post by: Skhilled on April 22, 2015, 08:25:29 AM
This officially supported mod released by SMF is in response to a new "mobility-friendliness" check that Google has put in place. This mod should address those issues. But it may or may not work with your current themes or mods. Read about it here:

http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=535720.0 (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=535720.0)

This is mostly for mobile devices since SMF themes are not very mobile-friendly.

You can check to see if your site meets Google's standards for mobile-friendliness here:

https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/mobile-friendly/ (https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/mobile-friendly/)

You can test it with your mobile device here:

http://docskillz.com/curve/index.php
Title: Re: Responsive Curve Mod
Post by: Maxx on April 22, 2015, 09:17:08 AM
Thanks Steve I just tested my 2.1 test site :
http://smf21.surfacethemes.com
the test was congrats you are mobile friendly show a phone picture of your site.

This great for 2 very important issues, the ezportal and the smf 2.1 are comparable with the mobile device  Yea !

Good deal and no worries now :)

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Responsive Curve Mod
Post by: Skhilled on April 22, 2015, 09:22:46 AM
Cool!

I forgot to mention to everyone that the mod is for SMF 2.0 only. SMF 2.1 should be designed to be mobile friendly already.
Title: Re: Responsive Curve Mod
Post by: Maxx on April 22, 2015, 09:29:35 AM
Yes... I read that over there but, I just so glad because many are asking! and Now I know the what to tell them!
I visit SMF daily :)

Good looking out Bro!

Maxx
Title: Re: Responsive Curve Mod
Post by: Skhilled on April 22, 2015, 09:34:40 AM
I don't go there often but did today for some reason and found this.
Title: Re: Responsive Curve Mod
Post by: Ken. on April 22, 2015, 10:25:53 AM
It works for OFF!  :cool2:
Tks Steve.




Quote from: Ken on April 22, 2015, 10:22:40 AM
Thanks to a TIP (http://www.docskillz.com/docs/index.php?topic=763.0) from Skhilled (http://www.ourfamilyforum.org/FamilyForum/index.php?action=profile;u=142) we are now "Mobile-Friendly" here on Our FamilyForum!  :banana:

(http://www.ourfamilyforum.org/gallery0/64-220415101528.png)

Quote from: Skhilled on April 22, 2015, 08:25:29 AM
This officially supported mod released by SMF is in response to a new "mobility-friendliness" check that Google has put in place. This mod should address those issues. But it may or may not work with your current themes or mods. Read about it here:

http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=535720.0 (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=535720.0)

This is mostly for mobile devices since SMF themes are not very mobile-friendly.

You can check to see if your site meets Google's standards for mobile-friendliness here:

https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/mobile-friendly/ (https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/mobile-friendly/)

You can test it with your mobile device here:

http://docskillz.com/curve/index.php
Title: Re: Responsive Curve Mod
Post by: Skhilled on April 22, 2015, 10:40:15 AM
Cool! :)
Title: Re: Responsive Curve Mod
Post by: Maxx on April 22, 2015, 11:50:02 AM
OK Crip's site is Good Now and I need to work on mine in the afternoon :( I'm a so sad!

Logooff ,I'm sure will not pass. I'll need to make fresh theme there, but got lots to do ATM.

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Responsive Curve Mod
Post by: Maxx on April 23, 2015, 08:58:18 AM
Please Note that this mod does not work on all themes, even fails on the core theme during install.
there are many things need be done to make responsive theme.

And it is not possible to make the 2.0+ themes completely responsive, for many reasons
The Board.index.template uses tables and the portal get in the way and some mods. and even the poster, info to the left side of the posts, will not cooperate.

If you make some changes according to Google Web tools, getr you site in their new ranting system with some changes, the test resultys will pass, but still not responsive. the SMF system to complecated to just up and make it reponsive. This will take a complete re write of the Version, and this will not happen.

The SMF 2.1 beta is responsive on it's own, but with add portals , this may change it also!

Test youe site here:
https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/mobile-friendly/
after the test it will tell what to change or fix!

For the Guild lines visit here:
https://developers.google.com/webmasters/mobile-sites/?hl=en-US&utm_source=MFT&utm_medium=incoming-link&utm_campaign=MFT

Some need tags for your meta page info:
in your css :

@-ms-viewport{
  width: device-width;
}


in the page head...................

<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1">
<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width">
Title: Re: Responsive Curve Mod
Post by: Skhilled on April 23, 2015, 09:35:34 AM
But what file should you add this to? ;)
Title: Re: Responsive Curve Mod
Post by: Maxx on April 23, 2015, 10:01:34 AM
These tags go in the index.template.php at the top, before the </head> end tag!

this should be the best to use:
<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width" />

Now in the index.css you add this to the top:

@-ms-viewport{
  width: device-width;
}



Now if you then test your page and it not mobile ready you will need to make the changes they suggest there.

Remember this only to get you.. in the rank test check.

Does not make it responsive even if it passes their test.

Making your theme responsive is another story, and not possible with the core1 theme used in Ver 2.0 +!


Title: Re: Responsive Curve Mod
Post by: Skhilled on April 23, 2015, 10:06:18 AM
Thanks for the info! I'm sure everyone will appreciate it. ;)
Title: Re: Responsive Curve Mod
Post by: Maxx on April 23, 2015, 10:25:54 AM
No problem Doc that what You I do support the SMF community as best We can!

If I get more I'll post I ws over at smf and many having issues, so iit still needs time for trail and error , but at least someone is at it!

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Responsive Curve Mod
Post by: Maxx on April 24, 2015, 09:13:33 AM
At SMF they updated a new responsive mod. http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=4040

you will need un install the previous and install this one.

Support topic is here http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=535718.0

and I add some code to add to your index.css as follows:

Quote
OK this will tell what your min width can go to> this is in your index.css

If you are have issues getting the Awesome test result.




div#wrapper {
    margin: 0 auto;
    max-width: 2300px;
    min-width: 350px;
}



Just an example, can be adjust to your satisfaction! max can be 100% and the min i place is excepted by  the test!

But these things are just get in the new ranking thing!

regards,
Maxx

Title: Re: Responsive Curve Mod
Post by: Skhilled on April 24, 2015, 09:50:03 AM
They updated it because Google changed something and now your original changes will not work. You will need to apply the changes in the post above for it to work now. Quite a few  people are not happy about this.
Title: Re: Responsive Curve Mod
Post by: Maxx on April 24, 2015, 11:23:17 AM
Not happy about what me or the mod?

The things I posted are still working without the mod.  That mod only good on the default them, not custom or at least the ones I have checked.

@ info only I state many time that the SMF theme can never be completely responsive do to the complex code change that will need to be made, like complete re-write of the system.

The Forum alone for 2.1 will act responsive, but not with portals or some mods, ( on Ezportal its ready for 2.1 and can be set to drop, the side panels once the mobile device is detected)

The only way is to re write it and they are going  that way as far I can tell..

this is just to get you site in the Google ranks, not responsive in the word!



regards,'
Maxx
Title: Re: Responsive Curve Mod
Post by: Skhilled on April 24, 2015, 11:26:12 AM
They are not happy about Google changing how they view sites as responsive...nothing to do with you. LOL

See the first link in my last post at SMF...
Title: Re: Responsive Curve Mod
Post by: Maxx on April 24, 2015, 11:41:56 AM
Yea I agree and know this and Google seems to be trying monopolize the internet.

I good go on about what they doing just few things,
Internet news site are up in arms about this and things they have done before this, ,l like place all your media, videos and Pictures so no one needs to visit your site at all in many cases!

the other the Apps, they take the user's where they want them go to see things they are look for, and by passes us entirely. you can on IE one the Widows phone, if you want look at video, its take them directly to U the Tube and not your site... they Big Boys need to slow their roll some.

Every day I get up to work and create and feel it's all in vain... and the smart is not smart if sheep herder.

We no long stand and chance unless the crack down, on this type thing.

And this only my feelings to the subject!
But I'm gonna give, but hope some wake up and speak out!
This not fare by and means!
regards,
maxx
Title: Re: Responsive Curve Mod
Post by: Skhilled on April 24, 2015, 11:55:45 AM
Hopefully, they will not change it again. If they do I think they may start losing support...if they have not already.
Title: Re: Responsive Curve Mod
Post by: Ken. on April 24, 2015, 11:59:49 AM
Installed/Updated my site to 'Responsive Curve (Beta) for SMF 2.0.x (http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=4040)' and then checked the Mobile-Friendly Test (https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/mobile-friendly/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ourfamilyforum.org%2FFamilyForum%2Findex.php) site and we still show as "Awesome!"   :hah:
Title: Re: Responsive Curve Mod
Post by: Skhilled on April 24, 2015, 12:06:18 PM
Hmmm, may have something to do with the coding of the themes, etc...
Title: Re: Responsive Curve Mod
Post by: Maxx on April 24, 2015, 02:57:56 PM
The mod only adds to the index.css and rtl,css and some images. but I found that mine get approved by making certain manual edits I mentioned above. But this may not work with all custom themes? I time to check these things out!

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Responsive Curve Mod
Post by: Skhilled on April 25, 2015, 03:58:51 AM
Quote from: Maxx on April 24, 2015, 02:57:56 PM
But this may not work with all custom themes? I time to check these things out!

regards,
Maxx
According to SMF, it may not work with some custom themes depending on how they are coded. Other coding changes may be needed in order for it to work. How a mod attaches itself to a theme may also have an effect on it.
Title: Re: Responsive Curve Mod
Post by: Maxx on April 25, 2015, 06:42:58 AM
During install on several site, I found many Theme errors even with the default core theme.... So this may be due to or cause by Portal and or mods installed in the past, But I can not say anything over there with out attitude, so it maybe up to us to sort out,,, or wait a while on it. It's not fare that Googie tries setting the standards for the internet.

That not what the web was intended to do or be used for!

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Responsive Curve Mod
Post by: Skhilled on April 25, 2015, 06:54:13 AM
And Google may change it yet again...  :groan: If they do I'll give up on lit, at least for awhile until they get it sorted.
Title: Re: Responsive Curve Mod
Post by: Maxx on April 25, 2015, 07:07:14 AM
I hear Ya Bro!

I hope some  thing stops them with this way of thinking. We work for free helping others, not for $$ why should they punish us :(

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Responsive Curve Mod
Post by: Maxx on April 25, 2015, 05:54:57 PM
I have removed this mod From Logoff.net 2 reasons.

One it enlarges the login button 10 time it's size and I'm not only one, and also My theme I installed there gets the OK from Google rank with out the mod because I've been working responsive stuff on my theme for years now.

I have in my the a responsive  java script and responsive.css, it own jQuery and custom menus.

I have been working toward this stuff foir few years now and Bloc has as well, we discussed these thing for several years at his other site. But not because of Googie , but because the the trends of web and mobile usage!

My custom styles.css  and index.template.php changes I made! hard to explain , but been at it for a long time, post on many site my intentions and everyone more or less ignored me! :)

oh well what the hey!

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Responsive Curve Mod
Post by: Skhilled on April 25, 2015, 05:57:41 PM
Yes, the original mod (login button issue) does that to some sites but did not do it to mine for some reason. Anyhoo, the latest version fixes that problem. not sure about other issues...
Title: Re: Responsive Curve Mod
Post by: Maxx on April 25, 2015, 06:12:44 PM
Steve, this is with both version they posted and that 's not my point,  my point is that no one listens to me when ever I discussed or suggest this over and over again! My theme there is at least 2 years old if not more!

It's all about the smf and themes not being updated way back, except mine!

I think my point  just got ignored this time also! :)


regards,
maxx
Title: Re: Responsive Curve Mod
Post by: Skhilled on April 25, 2015, 06:21:20 PM
Well, they claimed to fix it. LOL Funny how it only happens on some sites and not others...the login button issue, hmm...

Yes, I've thought the smf themes should have been changed a few years ago but didn't think they would've listened so I've never posted anything over there about it. I'm still not sure why they are using the core theme when it doesn't work well or with many mods at all...
Title: Re: Responsive Curve Mod
Post by: Maxx on April 25, 2015, 06:34:01 PM
I have tested a few themes on my sites as well as other and it, The Google test is working, if I use MY themes they are good,  but others Not.

I just went and check my themes again and they are good, and Sure some Bloc's newer themes are good also, but may not the one at TP, not sure... If not I'm he know hows, because I've seen some of his and tested them before the Google test came out!

But in any case it's not fare to you and I and regular Guy, for Google to do this! IMHO!

Note though, even If google does not continue, with this ranking system thing, everyone still needs to get the themes, so they can fit in the mobile gadgets!

We all got keep up with the trends. and google should be in charge of in control of this so to speak!


regards,
Maxx

Title: Re: Responsive Curve Mod
Post by: Skhilled on April 25, 2015, 06:48:55 PM
I agree! Whether Google continues along with this or not you can't just shrug them off because they can bring a lot of viewers to your site. Furthermore, the future seems to be with mobile devices and themes/skins NEED to be mobile-friendly!

But Google flip-flopping is not good for their market share either... They need to make a decision or at least say "Hey, we screwed up and believe this is now what should have been before". Then it doesn't seem like they are trying to do whatever and people will just follow.