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Title: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Ken. on April 11, 2015, 11:52:01 AM
As promised for Maxx!  :happy:

This will document my adventures while installing Ubuntu on my Windows 7 laptop.

Any suggestions or advice is welcome.

More later.
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Maxx on April 11, 2015, 12:38:30 PM
I'm not sure what's up with the Latest version, if it will not work on quad cores, tried 3 separate units(machines) and no go on 64bit.

I am however going to order the latest on CD like I did with the 8.10 version, Don't waste on that though , all packages are out dated and does not want to even up grade to ver 9 + from update manger>

If I'm not mistaking it you need to use the 32bit for Intel machines and the 64bit for AMD, But all my stuff is quad core

2 Intel and one AMD!

I will post more as I try and fail :) also Windows 7, 8.1 and 10  beta pro trail .

also down loading the version for Ubuntu up grade iso

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Ken. on April 11, 2015, 12:50:21 PM
Added a partition to the HDD to be used for Ubuntu:
Shrunk the Storage(F:) drive by 30 Gig and then made the unallocated space into Ubuntu(U:). The resulting drive, (U:), ends up being 29.2 Gigs and that should be more than enough because Ubuntu calls for only(!) 5 Gigs of free space.

My laptop specs:
HP dv7-3067nr 'Entertainment Notebook'
Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit)
AMD Turion(tm) II Dual-Core Mobile M500 2.20 GHz
4.0 GB

Starting to research website now to make sure to do the best and smoothest install possible.  :cool2:
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Skhilled on April 11, 2015, 02:38:26 PM
Quote from: Maxx on April 11, 2015, 12:38:30 PM
I'm not sure what's up with the Latest version, if it will not work on quad cores, tried 3 separate units(machines) and no go on 64bit.

I am however going to order the latest on CD like I did with the 8.10 version, Don't waste on that though , all packages are out dated and does not want to even up grade to ver 9 + from update manger>

If I'm not mistaking it you need to use the 32bit for Intel machines and the 64bit for AMD, But all my stuff is quad core

2 Intel and one AMD!

I will post more as I try and fail :) also Windows 7, 8.1 and 10  beta pro trail .

also down loading the version for Ubuntu up grade iso

regards,
Maxx

Worked for me on my AMD 64 bit using Ubuntu 14.10.

Quote from: Ken. on April 11, 2015, 12:50:21 PM
Added a partition to the HDD to be used for Ubuntu:
Shrunk the Storage(F:) drive by 30 Gig and then made the unallocated space into Ubuntu(U:). The resulting drive, (U:), ends up being 29.2 Gigs and that should be more than enough because Ubuntu calls for only(!) 5 Gigs of free space.

My laptop specs:
HP dv7-3067nr 'Entertainment Notebook'
Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit)
AMD Turion(tm) II Dual-Core Mobile M500 2.20 GHz
4.0 GB

Starting to research website now to make sure to do the best and smoothest install possible.  :cool2:

If you have SecureBoot you need to disable it. Then download EasyBCD and install it. You can install linux but may have problems getting the bootloader to show without EasyBCD.
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Ken. on April 11, 2015, 03:51:07 PM
I had read your post here (http://www.docskillz.com/docs/index.php?topic=743.msg3206#msg3206) and had picked up on the EasyBCD (http://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/) thingie and that's on my roadmap for this install.

Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Maxx on April 11, 2015, 03:54:01 PM
I must be in bad shape I never had trouble ever with Ubuntu, the old 8.10 disc works perfect.. But I find the reason , when I get feeling better!

Thanks Guys ! gots to go!

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Skhilled on April 11, 2015, 03:55:30 PM
Quote from: Ken. on April 11, 2015, 03:51:07 PM
I had read your post here (http://www.docskillz.com/docs/index.php?topic=743.msg3206#msg3206) and had picked up on the EasyBCD (http://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/) thingie and that's on my roadmap for this install.



Sounds like you're on your way then...unless you botch it up.  :hah:

Quote from: Maxx on April 11, 2015, 03:54:01 PM
I must be in bad shape I never had trouble ever with Ubuntu, the old 8.10 disc works perfect.. But I find the reason , when I get feeling better!

Thanks Guys ! gots to go!

regards,
Maxx

Hmmm, has to be a reason why it's not working. OK cya later...
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Ken. on April 11, 2015, 06:05:44 PM
Quote from: Skhilled on April 11, 2015, 03:55:30 PM

Sounds like you're on your way then...unless you botch it up.  :hah:


... me thinks thou may knoweth moi overly much.   :groan:
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Skhilled on April 11, 2015, 06:17:43 PM
See? I botch things up too.  :rofl1:
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Maxx on April 11, 2015, 06:21:13 PM
+1 as we learn and try new ways! I think my brain get hijack at times! :)
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Skhilled on April 11, 2015, 06:23:55 PM
I think I remembered and did things better when I did drugs long ago.Now that I don't I screw up a lot more!  :hah:
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Ken. on April 11, 2015, 06:59:48 PM
@Steve...  :hah:

Me gotta go, my NASCAR race is coming on FoxSports1. ... be back in the Am.
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Skhilled on April 11, 2015, 07:12:29 PM
Cya later...
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Ken. on April 12, 2015, 11:54:56 AM
Useful Link. (https://neosmart.net/wiki/easybcd/dual-boot/linux/ubuntu/)

This is what I'm currently reading to study up on my dual-boot install.
I say study up because it has been a long while since I've done this and don't want to screw up my Windows because of some forgotten step.  ???
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Maxx on April 12, 2015, 04:03:06 PM
This is where I play with CSS3 and HTML5 stuff:

http://smf.surfacethemes.com/index.php?topic=38.0

Please keep in mind I'm always at play there so... but pushing to the limits of the SMF :)_

I got about four that just need tweaking for the 2.1 Beta at : http://smf21.surfacethemes.com/index.php
feel free to join.

Add to make new site cause I changed hosts for that domain!

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Maxx on April 13, 2015, 01:34:24 PM
OK Gentlemen, I doing it the long and time consuming way bout it's very  good to refresh my bean, and possible learn new stuff along the way:

I found and old CD I made for Xubuntu 10.04, that I can start up in the Windows without booting from Ubuntu!

This allows me to install inside windows and create a dual boot at the same time and I set it up for 30GB, No mistakes to be made! I'm not running it and updating to Version 12.04, them what ever comes up after that, in between I can refresh my mind on the various versions also. The Xubuntu, is a much neater or cleaner flavor of the Ubuntu.. I cave up trying to make a usable .iso so here I go on the long road there :)

I'll post more as I get it done!

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Ken. on April 13, 2015, 02:02:26 PM
 :censored: :censored: :censored:
Not sure what I've done wrong, but my windows 7 seems to be thrashed!   :groan:

Looks like the restore disk is my only option, but I'm still looking at the situation trying to find another way.

For now I'm trying to restore/repair windows and that's not going too well, the restore didn't work because it's showing no restore points available.

... later:
The repair didn't work, so atm I'm trying use trying to my recovery DVD's to reinstall to 'factory settings' and that's not working either.  :censored:

I have a windows 7 disc, so that may be a way to go... although I seriously considering using my XP Pro disc and just forgetting about win7.
I always loved XP Pro.   :cool2:
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Maxx on April 13, 2015, 02:32:37 PM
Ken,

Very sorry to hear it got trashed!

But Win Zip I think is no longer supported, and if not there will be no security. If you don't allot of windows software? , Why now give the Ubuntu a try first, it works much like windows now days, you may like it it has Office software and allot of other great, I know allot of people that got off the WIN train, will never go back!

I have too much $$ invested in Win software to just go linux!, if not I would ! If 14.+ works good I may devote my monster Machine to Ubuntu! U can use FF browser and some others! :)

Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Ken. on April 13, 2015, 03:14:22 PM
Maxx, I've not taken any decisions on what to do if this current fresh install fails... Ubuntu is one good option and so is XP Pro.

Just waiting on this last try to cycle through and then decide.
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Maxx on April 13, 2015, 04:56:42 PM
Oh... the Fresh install of Windows 7 should not give you any problems, I  you need help pls let me know, You will need to delete the current partitions and  format the HDD and create a new partition for win 7, if you had not already have done that part!( this to make full use of your Hard drive!

You probably know all this but just in case!

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Ken. on April 13, 2015, 05:14:12 PM
The reinstall is finally working.  :laugh:

So now it's all the updates and software installs... maybe I can try Ubuntu again tomorrow.
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Maxx on April 13, 2015, 05:32:21 PM
That's the spirit!

What I do Ken , is to unzip the ISO in a windows folder then, then start the application (exe) and tell it to install inside windows, and it should give the option to select up to 30 GB of space, once it extracts the file needed it should eject the disk from your DVD unit and reboot and you'll need to select real fast unbuntu, so not to boot up in windows, then it will finished the install process.

Good luck tomorrow, I would not install from boot up, unless you really know what to do with partitions!

So every time you boot up you'll need to pay attention and scroll down to unbuntu, before it boots up windows.


regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Maxx on April 13, 2015, 05:37:14 PM
I'm upgrading to 14.04 at this time att. doing it the hard way.

Sorry you add issue before but this is fun for me and testing is 3rd to Music and Art! :)

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Skhilled on April 14, 2015, 08:12:20 AM
One thing I've seem to notice with my installs is that if you do not use your primary drive to install linux it doesn't work. I have 3 drives and tried installing on both secondary drives and got nothing. When I tried on my C: drive it asked me what size to partition it and I had no problems.

I'm, not sure if I was doing something wrong or not but that's the only way it worked for me.
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Ken. on April 14, 2015, 08:14:07 AM
I'm about ready to try again with Ubuntu and will try your approach Steve.  :cool2:
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Maxx on April 14, 2015, 08:19:54 AM
So far A 14.04 install is going great, I opened the iso , and just click on the wubi.exe and it does everything you need if you have the windows installer version.

Set to 30bg  and it does partition and every thing with  out mistakes, but don't stop it for any reason! some time it stops for some seconds in between boot ups>

regards,
Maxx

Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Skhilled on April 14, 2015, 10:39:44 AM
Having problems running skype in linux. It seems they've made some changes so it doesn't work as well with linux since M$ took it over.

However, there are plugins for Pidgin and Epiphany messengers. Now to get it to work with either of them...

It is also harder to do root commands or boot into a root account. They've dummied it down I guess.  :censored: I also wanted to run a server on it. Maybe I just have the wrong version of Ubuntu?  ???
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Ken. on April 15, 2015, 06:08:40 AM
I'm taking a short break from this dual-boot for a min... got some other stuff that has been on hold and needs to be finished up/taken care of and then I'll try again.   :cool2:

My time yesterday was a bust on the Ubuntu install...  gotta do some more reading before giving it another go.
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Skhilled on April 15, 2015, 08:35:09 AM
We're not going anywhere...
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Maxx on April 15, 2015, 07:40:39 PM
Yes does take while when things don't cooperate with a person.. some times you can find are furbished or cheap laptop with the Ubuntu installed. My New Dell 15+ inch, I got on special for less than 300, has windows 8.1, but I think I'm gonna get the Disk from Ubuntu and devote the Dell to it. OR may Half of it!

Not sure yet. I want to check the latest Linux distros out there!

And Steve I'm really liking this key board ! :)

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Ken. on April 16, 2015, 11:32:15 AM
Ah well... looks like I need to take a pass on the dual-boot thing for now. 

After several tries it was apparent that the current release was not going to work so I tried an older version of Ubuntu and it didn't turn out any better.
So, I'm in the process of doing another 'factory reset' on my laptop because the system got trashed again.   :oops:
So, that's it for now.
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Maxx on April 16, 2015, 11:44:42 AM
Sorry It did not work Out Ken!

I'm going back working op theme again and updating some websites! Busy hands.... You know!

Also tell Steve I'm testing the Windows 10 for some time now and looks good, much better than the 8.1, But you never know what the final will be. It also looks like those who have 7, 8 maybe in for a free upgrade but not positive :)

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Ken. on April 16, 2015, 12:37:58 PM
A free upgrade would be great, but me not gonna hold my breath!  :rofl1:
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Maxx on April 16, 2015, 05:12:15 PM
Ken,

I lost the link I sent to Steve, but they are sure talking about doing it,  if I find more I'll let know, But so many were disappointed with ver 8+, so it could happen and the Win 10 ver I'm using is work great and is good until 10/15/15

you can down load the saame here :

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-iso-update-1503
they key is there also Bro!

doing a fresh install anyway:)

Maxx
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Ken. on April 17, 2015, 08:05:34 AM
Thanks for the link Maxx, gonna give it a try.
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Maxx on April 17, 2015, 08:24:19 AM
yes I think you will like it once you get a handle on it, during the install it real tests you system hardware good, the graphic and all.

they will give you a 2 week notice before it expires.

regards and Good Morning !

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Skhilled on April 17, 2015, 08:42:21 AM
You might want to read this before trying Win 10:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-faq
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Ken. on April 17, 2015, 08:53:42 AM
Thanks for that link Steve.
I've gone through this kind of process back when I joined the beta trial for XP, so I know that you can smash up a PC very easily when running a beta.  :ohmy2:
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Skhilled on April 17, 2015, 09:05:04 AM
My concern is the lack of confidence they seem to have about reverting back to your old version. LOL
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Maxx on April 17, 2015, 09:09:53 AM
I'm not sure if I posted it here , but I have a clone my windows & and my stuff on the secondary HDD ..this way I need to copy and paste and  new docs and downloads and such to the secondary drive then, just back after win 10 expires or just switch to that drive either way, I think you do the same with external !

Ken is doing a fresh install anyway so why not give it a try!

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Skhilled on April 17, 2015, 09:12:31 AM
Can you dual-boot with it or you just need to swap drives?
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Maxx on April 17, 2015, 09:18:34 AM
I set the bios to bring up the drive I want, I like it better that way. But I tried going back to & a while back and it worked off of the clone disk with the same Lic Key Hopefully they give a free upgrade when they done, and you caan as always send feed back to them on the 10!

Is better on this Version, if you can't find say the device manager,t search!

It works real smooth for me.)
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Skhilled on April 17, 2015, 09:27:56 AM
Got it...I do need another drive...already got 3. A 1 tb, a 150gb, and a 500gb. The 500 gb was used for storage. I can reformat the 150 and use that. That was the one I was having problems with and decided to build the new pc.
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Maxx on April 17, 2015, 09:48:47 AM
I real think, after the little dismay, you guys will like the 10 all Browsers and software I have works great,

But lately I've been having issue with FF and Flash, but I feel it s a FF issues, not the OS.



regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Skhilled on April 17, 2015, 09:50:27 AM
FF has been acting up a bit for me too lately on Win 8.1...
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Maxx on April 17, 2015, 10:32:35 AM
BTW Just in case, my secondary drive get dsfrag'd and scanned at the same time, so it takes a bit longer, but the way I have it, it's less chance I'll screw up, the back up clone, they both are 1 TB in size! and if I want to move things to it, I can copy and paste them,. this way when I clone back again I have all things I have or need to save!  this is mainly for your visitors info! :)


every month or so, I go in the Bios and boot up from the secondary to test things out and verify as well!

regards,
maxx
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Skhilled on April 17, 2015, 10:42:54 AM
I am thinking about buying another 1 or 2 TB HD later today. I need a 4 port USB hub too.
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Maxx on April 17, 2015, 11:05:00 AM
I'm leery about the !1 TB, don't think I'll trust a 2TB, or higher till there out there at work for a while, Just image=ine how many eggs you could put on that drive.

I don't think I have needed much more than 500 GB of back! and even allot that is junk. I have to Externals one 250GB 2.5 and a 500GB 3.5 both have been good and work for more then 5 years now. and now with the !TB secondary.

You must have allot of Pictures my friend! :) some of bigger HDD's if you bump them a little hard they will stop working, There one case on S gate, 500in the case that tipped over on the carpet and screwed it up.

regards,
Maxx



Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Skhilled on April 17, 2015, 11:12:36 AM
The one I bought for this PC is a 1tb that you even said was good in the post about my rig! Just thinking about getting a 2nd one. The next one I'll probably partition in half. 1 partition for storage and one for linux, etc.
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Maxx on April 17, 2015, 11:40:45 AM
I know It's working great, But just sure about a 2TB drive! And the ones we have are Western Digital the best in my book! Does your run quite?

I have 2ea, 1TB installed one machine, the other are back up external... something like storage locker :) and for transferring stuff! ( the 2.5" 250GB is real handy and can carry it anywhere, if need be).

I'll be back later!

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Skhilled on April 17, 2015, 11:44:56 AM
Yes, so far no problems at all and I've downloaded the tools from the support site...just in case something goes wrong.
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Ken. on April 17, 2015, 01:40:30 PM
I'm looking for something a little smaller (cheaper), like this one (http://www.amazon.com/250GB-Inchs-Drive-Laptop-Notebook/dp/B0087HHBXM/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1429292163&sr=1-3&keywords=hard+disk+internal+laptop).

As it happens I have a $40 gift card left over from Christmas, so the one above would work nicely.  :cool2:
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Maxx on April 17, 2015, 01:44:34 PM
What I'm concerned about what happens when we get over 500 GB of stuff on the drive's ? will they slow down, and thing like that?

This some only time will tell, You Know!

Maybe for you It might be good to keep all you photos on an external drive, that you can just plug in a usb and keep them organized in folders, like file cabinet :)

I may start doing the same with all the old graphics stuff and pictures I have, this way it takes some stress off the main drives.

Not sure if you noticed but the good smaller drives costs the same or more than the big ones do, makes one think!

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Maxx on April 17, 2015, 01:55:24 PM
Quote from: Ken. on April 17, 2015, 01:40:30 PM
I'm looking for something a little smaller (cheaper), like this one (http://www.amazon.com/250GB-Inchs-Drive-Laptop-Notebook/dp/B0087HHBXM/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1429292163&sr=1-3&keywords=hard+disk+internal+laptop).

As it happens I have a $40 gift card left over from Christmas, so the one above would work nicely.  :cool2:

Ken I have something like that for and external back up. IF Toshiba, it should be pretty good! :)

but the don't show many specs on it!

Maxx
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Skhilled on April 17, 2015, 07:30:47 PM
I was just at Best Buy and was going to get another WD Black but they only had Blue and Green. I guess I'll need to order it online.
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Maxx on April 17, 2015, 07:39:21 PM
Steve,

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Performance-Desktop-Hard-Drive/dp/B00FJRS6FU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1429313885&sr=8-1&keywords=wd+1tb+black

Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Skhilled on April 17, 2015, 08:25:48 PM
Yes, that's the same drive and same place I got the other one (same link in the "Steve's Rig" topic). Since I was out earlier I thought I could just buy one at the store and install it tonight. I didn't want to wait for it to be delivered but guess I must wait. LOL
Title: Re: Installing Ubuntu on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Post by: Maxx on April 18, 2015, 07:24:48 AM
Cool Cause I think it's good price and the same i Got!

I Check and walmart did not have it, red and blue..Just FYI for the guest, it has to do with the specs one the "BLack" is much better!